Some of the early turning points were in the 1999/2000/2001 time frame, like before Firefox, so before most people knew of us. And these were the turning points in which we actually came of age as an open source project. Meaning we shifted development control and management control from the remains of the Netscape group into a true open source project. And these are things like gaining control of the tree. Who determines who's got access? Obviously in an open source project you have a set of technical criteria for who can access the source code, but when you come out of a commercial organization there's this long tradition that all employees of that organization get access. And so these are very nitty-gritty development policies, but it took us a couple of years to figure out how to make that work, given this large commercial organization called Netscape. And those are not as glamorous as the success of Firefox, but they're absolutely fundamental to having what is a legitimate open source project at the core of what we're doing. So that was one set.

And so in July of 2003, we formed the Mozilla Foundation. Up to that point we had had no legal organization at all. We were a virtual organization. And we'd gotten pretty far with that, but there were a lot of difficulties, right. You couldn't own anything because there was no entity to own it. So you couldn't own a machine or a trademark, a name like Mozilla, or you couldn't have any money or a bank account or pay anybody, so it was really a big turning point to create that organization.

And then of course, Firefox. And probably shipping the 0.8 version of Firefox, which happened in the spring of 2004 was an important milestone; not as big as public as the 1.0 release, but it was really the 0.8 release, and I'll bet any of the people-your listeners-may well have been using Firefox 0.8. It as at that release that we began to be clear we were on to something important.